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1st ACC - 181st ACC - 17
Transcript of lecture by L. Ron Hubbard AICL-16 renumbered 8B and again renumbered 18 for the "Exteriorization and the Phenomena of Space" cassette series.
Tape number 669 on the Flag Master List.
Transcript of lecture by L. Ron Hubbard AICL-15 renumbered 8A and again renumbered 17 for the "Exteriorization and the Phenomena of Space" cassette series.
Tape number 668 on the Flag Master List.
The original titled was "Inverted Dynamics", with the "continued" added as part of the final renumbering when the opening section was separated from the previous reel and given the title "Inverted Dynamics".

THINKING ACTION, MACHINES

INVERTED DYNAMICS (CONTINUED)

A lecture given on 15 October 1953A lecture given on 14 October 1953
[Based on the clearsound version only.][Clearsound. Checked against the old reels. Omissions marked "&".]

[On the old reels, this lecture is titled "INVERTED DYNAMICS" 5310C14C 1ACC-15. It is number 668 on the Flag Master List.]
This is October the 15th, first morning hour.


This morning we are going to continue, as we will all this week, on subjective processes. I am doing it - this to you with malice aforethought. We have some lovely cases here. There's no reason to chew into these cases and bust them all up, you know. It would just ruin everything because what we want here is to give you a good reality on subjective processes - "processes" for Great Britain if these tapes are ever played there. [pronounced in the British manner the second time. - Ed.]

All right, continuing with this second part of the afternoon talk and very briefly, I want to tell you about the inverted dynamics. This has come up several times. You should understand it.

Now, you see what we're doing here? We're doing a very - really a very careful approach. We are walking forward through all of this in an effort to give you a reality on both subjective and objective techniques. Next week you're not going to get a chance to run a subjective technique, so let's get some reality on it this week. Next week we're going to run objective techniques - very, very few and very, very little subjective techniques.

If you can conceive of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, written on a vertical column - it starts with 1 and then goes up 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, with 8 at the top and 1 at the bottom. And then below 1, going down vertically, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

So we've got now, just today, tomorrow, Saturday to finish off subjective techniques. Now, when you realize that subjective techniques cover everything that has to do with a person's own thinkingness, you realize that we're finishing off quite a piece of stuff here.

Now 1 - this will work out that 1 and 1 is normal - covert hostility. That's a joke.

Right here let's get a good solid definition on what is a subjective technique. It's pertinent.

Now, as you go up from 1 and down from 1, you could think of this as two cones come out from the same center. Now, progressively up from 1 would be out through the top; that is to say, conquest of the MEST universe. This would be the direction we would follow. We'd conquer 1, then conquer 2, then conquer 3, then conquer 4, then 5, then 6, then 7, then 8. Theoretical course up.

What is a subjective technique? It is a technique where its highest reality will be a subjective reality. It will be the reality for the person himself and for no other. And if we call it subjective technique, then, we realize what reality we are trying to achieve. The reality we're trying to achieve here is a very simple one and it's simply this reality: Can we do something subjectively to an individual to bring about a change in his thinkingness? And do we find this a relatively long and arduous process or are some of these techniques easy, simple and quick?

What is the theoretical course down? It's an inverted course which starts at 8 and dwindles down to 1 - would be the descent of the person.

The only thing wrong with the mind would be in the mind itself Isn't that true? The only thing wrong with thinking would be thinking. Is that so? Q and A. All right.

Now, let me make that much more clearly. You've got your inverted cone and it runs from the middle: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 up. Got that? Now, your thetan, in getting in here, has gone from the top of that top cone: 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. There's his course of degeneration, down to a point of a fairly-good-order, pretty-good-shape Homo sapiens, really. He's still got a little bit of this stuff kicking around on the rest of the dynamics but he's downdrifting in that field. All right.

When we talk about thinking we are talking, then, in a subjective technique, on the lowest level of line collapse. It's thinking and then there's effort and then there's emotion, which is feeling, and we go out beyond that and we get looking.

Now, let's take this fellow as he goes down scale from Homo sap, into Homo sap in bad shape. He starts inverting: from 1 he departs out into 2. I was telling you about this the other day - can't survive. Can't survive on 1, therefore he starts to the lower 2. Can't survive on sex or children, he decides, so he goes to the 3. That'd be part of a group organism - communist or something.

Well now, a subjective technique, again, by definition as we're using it here, is one which deals with the most close-in part of it and which causes thinking. Now, we're covering the subject of thinking. Now, do you see that there is a difference here? That there's a very marked difference?

Most communists have failed sexually, by the way. I don't mean to damn the Communist Party by that remark. That happens to be a clinical observation.

Subjective technique would be that technique which went up to and did not exceed the boundary of; certainly, feeling about it. It would be thinking about it. There's subjectiveness.

Then when he gets down to 3, they're perfectly willing to sit around home and chew up other Russians until all of a sudden they drop into 4 and then we've got to internationalize.

Now, we're already - we're exceeding that boundary slightly. And the reason we're examining this field - it's the closest one in to the individual and it's the easiest one at which we can look, right at the present moment; we're looking at thinking. I mean, you better find out what you can about thinkingness and get some sort of a subjective reality on this, then, because we're dealing with the activity of the person within his body - again, a subjective technique.

Then we drop below that and we get to 5. It's animals, then.

Furthermore, the results of subjective techniques are most markedly boundaried by this: The person knows he is better but nobody else does. All right, that's a remarkable and miserable thing, if you come to think about it.

Then he goes down - 6. That's just MEST.

In this country, this country here - I think this is the United States this morning - the fact of personal relationships is probably poorer than any other part of the globe. The United States today is much more able with MEST - much more able with MEST - than other nations. It's just at a wonderful inverted 6; real good at inverted 6. This country sneers at other nations for not being so inverted at 6.

You see, he's losing out. You might call this the gradient scale downward of anesthesia. He loses everything above the level in which he's operating.

America today believes it has reached its highest level of aesthetic with metal. Is this anything peculiar to this society? I just happened to remember that it hasn't changed since 1621. An artist was permitted to work with wrought iron in the seventeenth century, but if he worked with anything else they burned him or something, excommunicated him, shot him. Because it was wicked and vicious and vile to fiddle around with paint and other folderol.

Now he loses 6 and goes into 7 and there is your psychotic band. They've lost 6 and are moving into 7. And man, the way he is now - the way he shouldn't be now, the composite that is modern Homo sapiens - markedly, just markedly, hangs around these two points. Way down! He's below an inverted 6, moving into 7 and then he moves into 8.

We find Paul Revere, a remarkable artist, working in copper and silver. And we find other people in the American scene working with metal. America can make metal very beautiful. It's always, then, in its culture itself; had a stick at an inverted 6.

Well, how the hell do you get this guy to turn around and go back up the other way? Fortunately, you don't progress the case mathematically or arithmetically or by diagrams. This is just a method of demonstrating to you what's happening.

When we got the Hessians - when they disbanded those Hessian regiments after they were captured at Saratoga and were put in barracks in Boston, it was much easier just to forget about them than to pay the king for them that lent them to the British. These men were wheelwrights, blacksmiths; they were tradesmen. Remarkable country over there that had sold its artisans and tradesmen into the military.

So you find this guy in the insane asylum who thinks he's God.

Almost as remarkable as modern day whereby we sell all the youth and brains of the country into the army. "Yuh-huh! Well, huh-huh, we got a president, for a -he was a general and it's all very sensible. The thing to do to get everybody up high-toned, you know, so we'll have a good civilization is take everybody when he's eighteen years of age, you know, and put him in the army so he gets well drilled."

By the way, your Tone Scale there begins with 8 at 0.0 and runs up with 1 at 20.0. (I was wrong before. I said that's a Homo sapiens. I keep thinking that man is optimum, in pretty damn good condition.) He's at 20.0, at where you got those is crossed, and he's at 40.0 when he's up to the upper 8. This would be another way of graphing your Tone Scale. Come down at 20.0 and from 20.0 your dynamics invert and go lower. Seven and 8 are down there below 2.0. And 2.0 - a little bit in advance of 2.0 - is 6. It's just a little bit up from 2.0. See?

If the country doesn't fall on its face because of this idiocy, it won't be Truman's and Eisenhower's fault, believe me.

I'm just mulling this over here a little bit to make it plainer and plotting it against the Tone Scale. And when you'd go up, let's see, your level of comparison there, he'd be - it must be a DEI sort of an inversion. There's - he's got gradient scales of each one of these. It's a more complex graph, by far, than what I'm demonstrating to you but should get this idea - just get the idea of the two cones and you've got it. It's a terrific number of small cones which makes two big cones.

I tell you frankly, speaking strictly as a scientist, which I can speak as, and as a pretty good sailor - I can speak that way, too - I can tell you, confidently, that modern methods of warfare don't happen to require manpower. You don't want anything to do with manpower; they get in your road. You don't want the enemy to mobilize either because that makes some of his populace safe; it puts them in front-line trenches. If you were today to hire five thousand scientists and about five thousand hot rod kids for applicators, you could practically wipe out life on Earth, which I think is the end goal of war. You could. You just give them their head and say, "Well, let's go boys; let's figure it out," and away you'd go. The problem is not a problem of manpower.

All right. We get here the psycho in the insane asylum who's being God. And then we get the psycho in the insane asylum who's being Christ. He's not quite as bad off as the psycho being God. See? He's inverted. He's out through the bottom to the extent that he as a thetan is going to be God.

Yet, America today is striving madly with its educational programs, with every other government program, to depress the thought level to thought only. Well, let's just kind of make everybody into an automaton who thinks.

You say, "Be three feet back of your head." If he was in communication at all, he would merely tell you he was God right now, see? Huh! There wouldn't be any uncertainty about it - he knows! He is convinced; you should be, too.

One of our great universities - they made them take the red lights off the girls' dormitory recently; and the faculty finally got rid of seven or eight of the communist professors they had there and they - they've got it pretty well straightened out - they've cut down the number of class in class there from 400 to 398; real progress - the University of California. This great educational institution has signs - down in the Los Angeles branch of it - has signs all over the place: "You're here to learn how to think."

You run into this every once in a while but the clue is, is he is nowhere near his body in the first place and he'd have to be processed to come back into his body and out of his body again in order to give you the exteriorization which we want. It's symptomatic that he says, "I'm over there."

I can show them how to fix up kids so they think. I can show them real easy how to fix up kids so they think. Just give them a lot of psychiatric electric shocks. They'll think; they won't be able to do anything but look [think] when they do that to them. Or just simply take brickbats and start hitting them. And if you hit them enough and shot at them enough and gave them enough shocks, they'd really think. It's the slow method to educate them into it. Unfortunately, I've had to do with some of the graduates of this great institution during this late slight riffle in international affairs. I found each one of them was very capable of thinking but he sure couldn't act! He couldn't even vaguely act. He couldn't get into motion; he couldn't complete a cycle of action. You'd say, "Go down and get a can of paint," and he would come back three hours later by saying he had signed in the wrong line of the requisition place or something and he was very confused and he didn't have...

Now, because that's a long way to climb doesn't mean it's a long way to process; it breaks quickly. But he says as a thetan - anywhere down from about an inverted 3 - he'll tell you, "I'm over there." See? "My thetan..." he will say. See? And people who are really sold on religion talk about "our God."

[Please note: At this point in the lecture a gap exists in the original recording. We now rejoin the class where the lecture resumes.]

Religion, as you know it in the Christian church, is well in the vicinity of 0.0. It's really close to death. They talk about "their God." A little bit higher they talk about "their Christ."

Continuing this morning lecture.

Well, what's God in this case? It's themselves. But you've got to go all the way up through the dynamics to find him. You can't go out and walk around geographically trying to locate, yourself, your own God because you are your own God. It's so simple. You can't walk around all over the place trying to "find Christ" or "put Christ in your heart" or some such thing as that, because as far as you're concerned, you're - when you got to a straight up 7, you'd be it - you'd be Christ. Do you get the idea?

The toleration of motion of a nation is very poor indeed where thinkingness is its largest goal. Everybody is supposed to be thoughtful in this country and believe me, they really get thoughtful.

So we're not - we're not concerned with the condition so much as we are the distance. When a person is completely sold on the idea of there being a God, you know where he is on the Tone Scale. "There is a God. I know there is a God. He is my God, and I am blahblah-blah-blah-blah." He's just sold down the line. You know you're talking to somebody - you know just about where he is on the Tone Scale. He's just about 0.0 - practically dead.

A test of this: You will find that if you put in charge of an organization as its hiring and firing agent a person who is afraid to hurt other people, he will wind up by murdering not only them but the organization itself. In other words, this is intensely impractical as a solution - but intensely impractical!

Little higher on the Tone Scale they use this God to Christianize them, like they got slaves over in Africa, you know? You think for a moment that I'm using blasphemy. I'm not. These are the people that are using blasphemy. They are doing the only crime that you can do: They are denying themselves. And that is the only crime possible. That is the only cross-up of ethics possible. After mulling it over and turning it over and testing it for a long time, why, I finally found that out that the only unethical thing you can do is deny yourself.

In the first place, conclusions are not reached by thinking as it is fondly believed to be thought by the public at large. People do not reach conclusions by sitting down and saying, "Now I am going to think." If they do they're going to be wrong.

So, they've denied themselves to the point of saying, "God is out there and he made the universe." Oh no, he isn't. They made the universe and they're not out there; they're right here. This fellow's inverted; he's not in his body.

We even have a national penchant here not to think - not to act, rather, impulsively - to think first and act later. I know of a large secret organization in this country which has as one of its mottoes: "Think twice before acting once." Well, that's a way to slow everybody down, isn't it?

Now we come right back up the line, we don't find anybody in his body until we start getting up fairly high. See, we're going right on up the line thetawise.

Well, what are we going to do one of these days for executives? What are we going to do one of these days for somebody to build a bridge? Everybody's in the little red schoolhouse now. What the hell is going to happen with this metal down here when we no longer have somebody sufficiently - sufficiently screwball to push around one of those big trucks, like the one that just walked away out there - ten tons worth of truck!

But fortunately the very act of saying, "Be three miles or three light-years or ten feet back of your head" - the very act of saying this is - the sudden recognition of it, if the guy exteriorizes (pow) at all, he jumps, quite ordinarily, up the Tone Scale a number of rungs. He goes up fast if he exteriorizes like this. And he goes up fast the more certainty he obtains on exteriorization because - pow! pow! pow! Q and A - the riddles of existence are just fading out on him at a mad rate. Just real fast!

We have a need in this country for people of action. Every success you ever ran into anyplace was good at action and very, very poor at sitting still.

That's why Theta Clearing produces the results it does. It's like shooting somebody up the Tone Scale with a rocket. And yet, they apparently don't shoot up the Tone Scale because their body is right there, isn't it? And it didn't suddenly glow or do anything. Well, here you've got measuring whether or not the thetan got into better condition by observing the flesh which he inhabited. That isn't very reasonable but an auditor is liable to do that if he doesn't recognize that he's liable to do that.

Now, it is true that education can be effective when you are dealing with essentials as how to become active though educated. As long as you are dealing with that, you're all right. As long as you're on that line, nothing bad with it.

In other words, we exteriorize the fellow, he will manifest physical changes. Oh yes, he will! But it'll take a little while, maybe, for the physical changes to catch up to him. The body doesn't change fast.

But to sit down and become cultured by memorizing the names of 875 paintings, 662 symphonies, and to know whether to say "Oh!" or "Aw!" when looking at a famous painting... Well, you see, that method of becoming cultured will wind up in no art.

Horses, for instance, when raised in the lowlands of Persia, where it's very hot, grow short hair. And when made - pushed into the mountains where long hair is very desirable, still don't grow any for three generations. And horses who have long hair in the mountains, when put down in the plains, keep that darned long hair for about three generations. They just want to make sure they're on a lower plain.

This country right now has a chance of pulling upstairs but it's doing everything it can to go downstairs. It has a wonderful opportunity because of its food supply, not because of its culture, to start pushing out across the world - a wonderful opportunity. But is it? All right.

Well, that's the body. And it gives you an index of how close it's contacting MEST and how fast it's willing to change. It's not willing to change fast at all. It wants to change real slow - generation by generation, if possible. It doesn't like this "five-minute alteration complete."

Subjective reality is the last one you want because it's the computation, the "only one."

One of you the other day coming in and complaining a little bit after a certain amount of processing - a certain physiological change took place connected with the pineal gland. That right? Well, there was no complaint about it. It's just a fact that the body is not accustomed to a sudden endocrine shift.

In America people can live in apartment houses for years and never know who lives next door. That is a result of pulled-in anchor points. Be pretty hard to figure out how anybody could manage this but they sure do.

I can tell you how to shift the body's endocrine system around madly. You just use Rising Scale Processing with the Chart of Attitudes. How simple. You do this on some girl - if you did this on an eleven-year-old girl you would probably shoot her up into the age of puberty in an awful rush. You'd probably change her physiologically and speed up the whole process.

People drive down highways here at a mad rate of speed. Somebody gets a flat tire, "Hell with him; he's in the road." That's not high-toned; that's real low-toned.

You do this on a girl who is much older and her endocrine system will turn back on again. You can change the body all over the place.

So, what do we find here as a change? We find a change in the people themselves. Not too long ago, it was actually possible for the people of this country to get a flat tire and be assisted bounteously. That's only about thirty years ago. Gee, you passed a car someplace, something like that, and you were just as like as not to stop, and say, "Hello. How are you? What are you going? What are you driving?" Never been introduced to this fellow.

But the point I'm trying to make is that the body is conservative and the thetan isn't. All the thetan has to do to change is just change his mind. But as long as he's evaluating according to the body, he thinks he has to change the body before he can change as a thetan.

Move into a new neighborhood; people came over and asked how you were getting along. They didn't look through drawn blinds to see what furniture was being unloaded from the van. Now they don't even do that; they don't even try to find out what your furniture is like before it's moved in. This is just simply the "only one" computation keying in, keying in, keying in further and further and further and further and further.

Well, you're just doing this job: You're trying to get him into the body so you can get him out. This is a hell of a note, isn't it? It's an inverted proposition. You're trying to get him into the body before you can get him out.

Thinkingness - resist with your anchor points; fight the MEST universe. Well, all that winds up with is thinking. And by golly, when you complement that with education and when you complement it with psychotherapy and when you get the entire goal of psychology concentrated on nothing but thinking, you've got trouble. You've got trouble in science; you've got trouble in thinking in general throughout the country. The most astonishing things occur.

Well, processes show up and are quite evident immediately as to how you get somebody who is way downscale, as far as a thetan is concerned - he might be downscale as a body and upscale as a thetan, but still the body kicking back against the thetan could make him outside the body before he gets into it.

Some fellow comes across with some kind of a something or other; boy, everybody is told what to think about it. You have a fellow by the name of Gabriel Hotrod who tells everybody what to think about it, and so everybody thinks that. You go down on the corner and after a program like that, you want to know about this situation, why, you can find out about it; you'll find the same opinion you've heard over the air fifteen minutes before. This is real good. This is exterior determination but thorough.

You'll find some thetans working this mock-up from clear up in outer space someplace. You'll find other ones stuck thoroughly in a theta trap. I mean this physically. I don't mean this in a mock-up form. They're actually in some kind of a trap someplace or they're in a room or they're standing in front of an electronic switchboard or something, way the hell and gone out of here! Nothing to do with it!

Is this thinking a method of reaching a usable conclusion? No! Because what they're calling "thinking" is circuitry, and it is not a good method of reaching a usable conclusion.

I ran across a preclear one day, had constant ringing in his ears. Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, all the time, all the time, all the time and nothing, no process known to man, would change this thing until all of a sudden I said, "Well, why don't you move away from the dynamo?" His body didn't go anyplace, but he just simply moved away from the dynamo. He ran into the guy who was standing behind him. This caused him to look down at his hands and feet, at which moment he immediately got sick at his stomach, they were so horrible. He'd been standing there looking at a view screen! He's been there for a long time.

I put a car once - there had been a terrific storm and a tree blew down across the road and there was electric-light lines lying all through the wet foliage of this tree and several thousand volts crackling through there. And I was going along at a fairly low speed, although the wind was still high and the street was still wet. And there was a little knoll just on the other side, a little roll in the road, a little crest there just on the other side of this big tree and a truck came booming up over that rise. I was going pretty slow, about twenty-five miles an hour. Well, there was a spot underneath this tree which was free of all the light wires, which was just the height of the car hood and so I simply inserted the car's hood underneath the tree. Didn't scratch anything. It stopped the car very thoroughly and got it out of the road of the truck.

I just shoved him off because I moved his position away from the view screen and out away from that and then processed him around for a while, then got him to finally sever the communication lines and then pick up direct lines with the body.

And that was the first time I ever found out that you didn't think about anything. It suddenly occurred to me later - I went over the thing very carefully, thinking it over - and I said that's very remarkable. There wasn't a single thought that crossed my mind the whole operation. Golly, that's a relief; I said to myself. Not a single thought.

I had to run Hand Flopping, a wonderful little technique called Hand Flopping, up to a point where he finally realized that he was controlling the body. Realization! You didn't run it as long as - enough to get the complete realization of it, but "Who's controlling this body?" You run it with that thought. You get your hands flopping up and down and just suddenly - just keep thinking "Who's controlling this body? Who's making these hands do this?" Flop, flop, flop, flop, flop, flop, flop, flop, flop, and all of a sudden it'll dawn on you with tremendous certainty, "I am!" You see? I mean, that's good stuff. That's a real good little technique, by the way.

You'll find in any spontaneous action where you've done exactly the right thing, you didn't sit around and think about it, you just acted.

Now, what's the condition here? The condition is the guy has run away from his body; he's run away from bodies; he can't even be in a body.

Well, what's this? It means that when you get time into thought you have injected MEST into thought and all that MEST is going to do for you is just lie down and be apathetic. When you put time into thought you inject MEST into thought.

The value of the body is so great that they don't even dare come near one. That's very true. They don't even dare come near one; they might hurt it. And so they're running them on extensional lines or some doggoned fool thing. At least this is the way they're computing. Regardless of what they're doing or what they think they're doing, you have to come up through a solid 6.

Now, there's no sense in trying to take MEST out of thought when we're dealing with circuitry because that's the trouble with it; there isn't any MEST in it to a sufficient quantity. It had MEST in it and now it hasn't got the MEST in it anymore, so it's on an inverted 6. It had MEST in it and now it hasn't got any MEST in it and after that it goes onto thinking.

You'll find them kicking around with spirits. You'll find wasting ghosts on some of these people is very effective. Wasting God, wasting ghosts, wasting spirits, wasting Christ and they'll start picking right on up the line. Or you simply do the processes which I've already been giving you and they accomplish the same thing.

Now, someday when you're flying around the universe amusing yourself; you'll probably want to amuse yourself with a thinking machine. I'll tell you how to make one.

The best of those processes, by the way, although it takes a while when run on a low-toned case, is Step II of SOP 8 - that's real good -

You take a little piece of space with nothing in it and then start building around it shells of energy; you build actual shells of energy around this little space. And now get on the outside of about fifteen or twenty shells, which are concentric (all of them concentric in spheres, you see, around this little, tiny space), and shove like hell from all sides simultaneously, at a tremendous crush - pam. And because you put the energy there and because there is an aliveness to it every time it's addressed - I mean, because there is an aliveness potential to it, every time it's addressed by a piece of live energy, the live energy will behave in a certain fashion. It will behave to give back a computation. This is a thinking machine. That's all there is to it - crush! That's it.

& You can practically drive somebody psycho with that if you rush it too hard or press it too hard,

Now after that anytime energy tries to get in through those crushed spots, it'll find itself running through hollow spots and vacuums which are distorted. And this distortion will make the energy behave so that you can feed any kind of a thought in there and it'll come out the other side with some other kind of a thought; and that's thinking.

- by having them move the mock-up and have them move the body and move the mock-up and then have them advance the mock-up and retreat from the mock-up, but bring the mock-up with them, you know? Keep the same distance and advance and retreat and so forth.. But the time to stop that is not when they're still groggy. You just keep it up. You just keep rolling it. You keep them walking forward toward the mock-up and the mock-up walking back with them until you've finally got this setup.

Thinking is the conversion of a postulate into a reason. And this is simply done by distorting it. And when you get a distortion pattern parallel to another distortion pattern you get an agreement in thinkingness. And if everybody accepts this as reasonable, why, then you've really got it; you've really got everything you went for - the worst parts. Okay?

Now, there's an extension on SOP 8, by the way, which is creating something which creates which creates. And I'll go into that in a moment.

Subjective reality is the reality one gets on a change occurring in such a compression sphere. If he can change the center of the compression sphere, he now has a subjective reality on thinkingness - a change in thinkingness. And that's what you do when you run a button; you distort or change the center of compressed space in a thinking machine.

But you get what I mean by an inverted dynamic. The fellow is so dispersed, he is so scattered around, he's below the level of being in a body. Now, let's not labor this. This is not serious. It simply explains to you the condition under which some of your preclears are operating up to the time you process them.

It's kind of a game. If you had this desk up here covered with little ENIACs and UNIVACs and the game you'd be playing is "Let's see if we can put a powerful enough thought and hold it long enough in each one of these UNIVACs or ENIACs to cause the thought to alter." Now, we put enough pressure on these machines and enough voltage in them so we will actually get an alteration of the thinkingness - you've got subjective processing.

SOP 8 is the method of processing them - and its ramifications as I'm giving them to you here. There are lots of ramifications and there are lots of faster processes, too. But the point is, the guy you're trying to exteriorize, when he doesn't exteriorize, isn't in the body. You've asked him to do an impossible thing. He's already exteriorized as far as he's concerned. He's either some other thetan or he's some other demon or he's someplace else and he wouldn't be able to come near the body on a bet.

And the end goal of subjective processing is the reduction, removal and discarding of these UNIVACs and ENIACs. That's what you're trying to do, see? You want to change those to a higher level, so you want to change each one. Well, the reductio ad absurdum is you put enough juice through them so that they distort more and more and then distort less and less. And you will get your UNIVACs and ENIACs and so forth eventually melting and running away. And then you have, not only a cleared desk, but you have cleared up thinkingness.

You got what we mean by an inverted dynamic. What is the "anesthese" level of the preclear? What can he communicate with? If he can communicate with MEST, you've got him at the level of inverted 6. If he can only communicate with spirits, only communicate with spirits and all else is kind of unreal and dull to him, you've got him at inverted 7. If he can only commune with God and all else is strictly mock-up, he's an inverted 8. It's "Where can he communicate?"

When a person is running postulates on himself; on somebody else, he can achieve an effect anytime he wants, so long as he isn't running one of these compression balls of energy. If he's running one of these things, he's trying to change the characteristic of distortion. And his end goal and the finish of the cycle on changing it, is simply its disappearance. You see that?

This person shouldn't be mistaken by you for two seconds! Because when I said, "He can only communicate with," that's what I meant. His communication level is so slight on the other dynamics, he wouldn't know groups or he wouldn't know anything about man at large or he'd be kind of foggy on the subject of animals. “Animals? Animals? Yes. Yes, animals are nice, aren't they? God made all these little animals" Here we go, see?

So taking apart a thinking machine merely depends upon just taking it apart. That's all. That's all you do; you just take it apart. But the more shocks you put into it, the harder it's compressed, the more it thinks. So electric shock is not the answer in how to remove a thinking machine.

"Yes, women - women are very, very nice. Yes, yes. They're very - some - been very, very good women in the world. Take Mary Magdalene!" Here we go, see? Now we're in communication.

Can a person think with a thinking machine? Well, no. You see, actually what they do is they say, "I have a thinking machine out here in front of me and what I'm going to do is run a thought in one end and get an answer out the other end. Now, let's see; if I put the answer out this end I'll be sure and get a right answer. Now I'll forget I did that. And now I'll run the thought through," and the thought comes out to the other end and you get an answer. A thinking machine - MEST thinking.

How do you know you're in communication? Because he talks with certainty on the subject. Savvy? So simple. That's diagnosis, if you want it that way.

Do you know... You ever see one of these fellows who could look at this tremendous column of figures everybody has written down and then write down the answer? There is some - used to have Japanese in vaudeville, and so on, that did this. They'd write upside up and upside down with their left hand and right hand simultaneously, and then they'd do mathematical problems. They'd have six columns of figures and they would have fifty of them in the same column and the second that was presented to them, they would write down the answer. Well, you can do that. There isn't any sense in adding them up because - mostly because there's no sense in arithmetic.

Now you could also plot this thing out horizontally and say: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, with an up and lower cone for each one of the numerals. And you could handle the problem, each dynamic individually, although they tend to pin each other down a bit. But you could just handle each dynamic individually. You could just strike into the problem. Anyplace you wanted to strike into any preclear, you'll find dynamics 1 to 8. And treat each one as an upper 8 or a lower 8, an upper 5 or a lower 5.

Arithmetic is just a method of slowing down thinking process. And if you want to slow down your thinking a trifle you can get any arithmetical answer, but if you think you have to speed up and work with and inject time into your arithmetic, you're in a hell of a spot.

Let's just start in with a preclear willy-nilly and say, "He can't communicate with animals, obviously." Here we go, see? He can't communicate with animals. Let's - you just assume this that he's - there'll be something wrong with his communication with animals. And you might find that his ability to communicate with animals is pretty damn good and a hell of a lot better than the rest of the men around him, but he still can't talk to them. He still can't walk up to a horse and say, "How are you?" See what I mean about communication with animals? He can't walk up to a dog and say, "Hey, gee, there's a swell - there is just a swell fireplug down in the next block. Rover was by there a half an hour ago. I just passed the place." You get what I mean by "communicate with animals?"

Okay. Let's envision the picture of this machine. It's got a hollow spot in the center. It's got a lot of shells around it composed of old facsimiles and impacts and so forth. They'll distort, see. They'll distort a channel. And sphere after sphere after sphere, more or less, is on the outside of it. And then it's been pushed like hell and you've got a thinking machine. And let's - let's really take a look at what we're running because that's what it looks like when you get outside and take a look at it.

Now let's take "communicate with MEST." This stuff do what you want it to do? Damned seldom. A fellow who can't work is simply hung up on 6. He's on inverted 6 - the lower part of 6.

Now, you feed it - a little current into it, a little life energy, a little life current here into one side of it with a little postulate and it'll go around and around - zoom! zung! zung! zum! And some of these are real tricky.

Now, if you plot your case, then, with the second system I mentioned, you have a case plot which is beautiful to behold. You just work that case plot with Creative Processing on creation and destruction by explosion. Mock-ups! Your case will solve itself. Do it by gradient scales.

The slowest one I ever saw was nine years! The answer turned up nine years after the question. But your Q and A on such a thing ought to be instantaneous and every time you introduce MEST into it, it gets less instantaneous. This is just a problem in Q and A; a thinking machine is something that keeps the answer from being the thing. See? We take a coin and we face the coin up one side as the question. The answer to it, of course, is that it's a coin; there isn't any further answer to it.

You can't blow up the cat? Well, by golly, you can blow up the duplicate you made of the cat by taking a stray hair which has already been pulled out, which is on the cat's back, out of the duplicate. And holding it out at a distance from both the duplicate and the cat, blowing up that hair. You can always do that. You can finally get down to where you can blow up the tail of the duplicate cat and then you finally blow up the mock-up of the cat. Now, we can take dogs, animals, crocodiles, any doggone thing you want on a gradient scale with Creative Processing and this technique is wide open.

But now we address a thinking machine to this problem, and it says, "Let's see now, a coin? A coin is a unit of exchange. And it goes all through the society and it does this and it does that. It's made by the US Government. The government is empowered to issue money, and so on and so on”. Well, about - oh, God. If you wanted to read something about - just get the word coin down at the local library and you'll see there's a lot of books on the subject. Those are just thinkingnesses.

You just sit down and do this. Say, "Well, we've got this technique and all we do is write down on a piece of paper in a horizontal line: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. And we draw a cone up and a cone down from each one of those numerals. And we'll find his lowest level of dynamic in an awful rush. We'll find out where he's the worst off simply by asking him questions connected with it." And where you find him in communication is when he alerts and starts to talk to you.

Well, that's all very fascinating. But the point is, is it's an activity on the part of some other group than yourself or part of your own group to get you to use mutual anchor points; that's all a coin is. You just use these mutual anchor points. And if you're using mutual anchor points, of course, you consider that you're equal; and democracy has succeeded.

I remember processing a preacher one time. Nobody had ever been able to do anything with this fellow. He was in pretty bad shape, actually. He had enough people around him in bad shape and in misery and broke and so forth, but after forty years of it, by Q and A, he was at last miserable, in bad shape and broke.

There have been very few military aristocracies which have ever used coins - very few. Military aristocracy is different than a military dictatorship - military aristocracy.

So, this wasn't an inevitable fate. It merely shows that the environment determined him, he didn't determine the environment. So we got - the preacher and I talked about himself and outside of being miserable, he didn't have anything to say about himself. I mentioned the subject of sex and a sort of an imbecilic thought that this was something evil flicked through his mind but that was about all. I talked to him about his parish and his parish didn't even vaguely worry him anymore. "They do not weep and neither do they spin," or something of the sort - way off beam. Talked to him about material objects, things he owned and so forth - way out of communication. And I talked to him about Christ and he showed a little bit of animation. He said, "Well, of course, he couldn't really have been a man. He must have been more of an idea that God sent here."

Some of the old castles on the knolls in France tell you this story very well. The minute the guy would sit down - good old forte main, you know - and he'd say, "Well, we're protecting all the peasants around here and that's why you are bringing up all your produce to us." The peasants wouldn't and they'd get a little revolt or something of the sort, so he'd just put on a few more recalcitrants as men-at-arms and the provisions would roll up to the top of the hill, and the wine would roll up to the top of the hill. And it was defying gravity but certainly the military aristocracy was seldom defied, except by another military aristocracy. Here was the use of force in the extraction of gain. They didn't have coins.

Ha-ha! And here we go. Now, I said, "Well now, concerning God..."

Somebody invented coins about the time of the Crusades and said you had to have gold to take a passage across the Mediterranean; you had to have gold to pay ransoms. It ruined all the military aristocracies of Europe. They found out that it didn't matter how many moneylenders you shot, hacked, burned, killed, hung, people still went on with this stuff; because the peasants fell for it. They had - all had mutual anchor points already - all kinds of mutual anchor points. Communal state: everybody owned the pig - a mutual anchor point - so it was very easy to say to them, "Well now, you see that little, little, tiny piece of copper; well, that's a pig. Huh." Interesting, but it's also a bushel of wheat. Well, that's very interesting but it is also a new suit. Peasants were confused. They'd fall for this. Obviously, to them everything was A A A A anyhow so a coin could buy anything, see? You'd say a new - a new suit made out of silk is two of these things. Well, they could make a mistake between quantity and quality, and so on.

"Yes," he says.

You look at this stuff - there is nothing but a bundle of errors. If you start - because all the reason under God's green earth has been applied to this. If you want to know about reason, look at money.

"Do you often have a feeling that he smiles upon you or you're in his presence?"

You go down here to the local library and you'll find Alexander Hamilton on the subject of banking. This is the most idiotic thing you ever heard of. The United States Government in its Constitution was very well authorized and extremely well authorized and very pleasantly authorized to issue its own currency. And this joker by the name of Hamilton, up to the day of his "regretted" demise, kept explaining to the government how the government couldn't have any credit unless it was in debt and why all his buddies up around New York ought to be the fellows that held the debt. And that this was much better and so they defied the Constitution and continue to do so until today by the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States which has no connection with the government; it is a private bank. Everybody thinks it's a government bank; it's not. Your money has got Federal Reserve Bank all over it. That's not money; that's a private issue. But there are silver certificates and stamps, so on; these are money as far as the government issuing and obeying the law which everybody agreed on.

"Well, you have to be really rather careful, you see, in your concourse with God, because it might be damaged by some sordid thought."

The rest of this stuff is spewed out of the printing presses and sent up to New York to the Federal Reserve Bank with their name on it, and so forth, and it becomes legal currency. How they managed that in the first place is nothing but the most marvelous piece of insanity you ever heard of.

Poor guy was already beginning to worry about the only Comm line he had left, which was God. You give him about thirty more seconds on the hour hand that man uses for a life span and he just would have slipped overboard and nobody would even notice the splash, including himself.

All right, up there at the Federal Reserve Bank, how do they get the government to issue money? Well, it runs something like this: They have a big ledger, see, and they write down one billion dollars in the ledger and then they write down to the government, "We've just written one billion dollars down in our ledger," so the government sends them up a billion dollars' worth of bonds. Then they buy these bonds off the government and then the Federal Reserve Bank, having gotten these bonds off the government, you see, can then issue a billion dollars' worth of currency. So they issue the billion dollars' worth of currency and there it goes and it's all printed by the government and the government sends it a small printing bill.

All right. Here's an analysis of a case. But this could be the analysis of any case.

I think the only interchange in it is the five or six hundred dollars it takes to print a billion dollars' worth of currency. I don't know who puts that up but it's probably put up by putting it down in the ledger too. You look in vain to find this money represent anything but a figure in a ledger put down by some clerk.

You talk to this girl and you say, "Yourself?"

But here we're getting - people are getting shot for this stuff! People will sweat their guts out building this and that and something else just to get ahold of this stuff! A woman will sell her virtue for this stuff! Wonderful! Just wonderful stuff and yet we can't find it coming from anyplace except somebody writing down a figure in a ledger and saying to the government, "Well, you've now got to issue us bonds."

“Ahn-ah-nah."

Well, how this outfit could write it down in the ledger and tell the government to issue it bonds, I don't know, because this outfit doesn't have any hoods, or any gunmen or any soldiers. So, it must be that the government must be running by a bunch of people who have an agreement with these people up there which is kind of behind the scenes. "Look, every time you write that billion bucks down, why, slide a few dollars sideways this direction and we'll be all set. Ah-ha!"

"Sex?"

We've disenfranchised the American people from the right of making money. So, this puts the control of the country someplace where it's not supposed to be but this is very valuable stuff. But when - you get how all this reason - it's not reasonable. If you really look at the backbone of money, you won't find anything reasonable about it.

"Nah-rar-r."

The only thing about deflation and inflation, they discovered during the war, is when a country has too many goods and too little money it has deflation. When a country has too few goods and too much money you have inflation.

"Groups?"

Sounds awful simple to me. A country which has inflated currency just better make some more goods or it better take some money out of circulation. That's easy to do. If it was created by writing a figure in a ledger sheet, it is sure easy to take it out of circulation; you just erase it.

"Ah-nrr-well, you know - groups."

And as far as deflation is concerned, all the government has to do with deflation throughout the whole thing, all the government has to do with a deflate is simply print some more money. Of course, if then - if somebody had to put it down in the ledger in the first place before they could print it that would leave the government deeply in d..

"Man?"

I see I'm looking at a fellow here by the name of Franklin Delano Roosevelt; he was a great man. By the way, I'll have to tell you about cripples someday. Anyway.

"Well, yes. Yes, somebody should do something for that."

When they really got going, they got the economics so fouled up that nobody can untangle them. Why can't anybody untangle them? Well, that's because they've all gone through a process of reason or evolution. Well, nobody can untangle all of this, because it's all in the past.

Talk to her about animals. "I had the cutest cat once!" Here we go! She's on inverted 5. Just like that - pang!

Let me ask you something: Did it ever exist? Did it ever exist? No, not actually. Masses of energy filtering through various reasons and giving parts and changes of form. Well, it's all right. You can do that to a certain degree and you'll get a certain amount of randomity. But when you push it too hard, its falsity shows up and you start getting minus randomity, immediately.

She still conceives herself to be in such strong communication with 6, 7 and 8 that she doesn't worry about it. But she's got the cutest cat and the cat got sick one day... You get where you'll spot a case now?

You start depending on this thing called reason and it just doesn't give you randomity. Up to a certain point, introducing reasons into something is simply injecting arbitrary stops in games. That's all. That's what reason is. It's just a method of limiting play so that there can be two or more sides to a play; and that's what the first entrance into reason is.

Now, what's the fastest way to process the case? is pick up the last inverted dynamic - the highest inverted dynamic you can find with which he's still in communication and rehabilitate it. Have you got it?

Now, the next entrance into reason is forgetting some of the rules that have been injected in the game. Now, if you can substitute for this with superstition, you can take the phases of the moon and say whether or not they're going to do the future for you or something; but it gets kind of unreasonable from there on down.

Now, you'll find people in Scientology that have moved into Scientology on an inverted 7. You guys aren't on an inverted 7. You swung in through here on probably an inverted 3 or 4, which is terrifically high for man.

It's marvelous that anybody can proceed at all using what is called logic or reasons; it's just marvelous that anybody can proceed doing that. It certainly does speak well for a man's ability to postulate and unpostulate that he can make thinking machines work. He's got to keep putting that answer on one side of the machine and feeding the question to the other side of the machine, and so on. And why he wants that arbitrary machine sitting there, we're not quite sure because he doesn't use it, except to play with.

People condemn Dianetics and Scientology and say we've got a lunatic fringe! Sure we got a lunatic fringe; you bet your life. But do you know the only people interested in this, really, are an intellectual strata which number probably, I'm afraid, amongst the first five or ten thousand in the United States. You know there are only about ten to fifteen thousand intellectuals in this country? That's a horrible fact, isn't it? But it's true enough. I've checked it up often enough.

The scientist looking at this stuff and taking it apart and putting it back together again is just playing a game. Everybody teaches this game as something very serious and threatens you with mayhem, and so forth, if you flunk some science course.

All right, you're real high toned. You swing in on an inverted 4.

The truth of the matter is, I had to unlearn everything I ever knew about science in order to get going on the subject of science - to find out something about it. Because science is a search for data.

Did you ever see the terrific sentimentality which is showered by armies on animals? And the amount of Christ that armies buy? They sure do. Your army varies; there's some real tough cookies in there that don't care from nothing, but the rank and file of the army is on an inverted 5 somewhere. They live like dogs, they feel like dogs, they speak like dogs, they love dogs and the name for a soldier in many languages is "dogface" or "dog soldier."

Data is the substance of a thinking machine. Data has no existence except a flock of postulates. Now, you get this data all massed up in one lump and shoved together and crushed down - now, somebody starts to do some research with his mind and oh, boy!

Male voice: Devil dogs.

There's a central postulate sitting in there. One of the rules of the game is you mustn't fool around with the rules of the game or the thinking machine. You mustn't fool around with this because just like if you yanked the curtains back on any altar, you'd find there was nothing on its platform. Really, there's nothing on its platform; there's a piece of MEST but it doesn't have any life.

Devil dogs. We've always got animals tied up in here.

The mystery: The most mysterious thing about any mystery is that there's no mystery. The secret - the secret of the MEST universe is that there is no secret. The secret of the preclear is that he has no secret.

The army mule, so forth. Always got something like this.

You start to run this concept and he gets this awful foolish feeling of very - poof! - very intense!

The navy - hell, they're hopeless. Nobody could place them anywhere. They've gone past God. They're on an inverted 12. They're always talking about letting things go to hell. The standard phrase of the navy is to let things go to hell. "Yeah, they let everything go to hell and we've caught it," and so forth. It's real terrific. Interesting.

"Now, let's run the fact that you have no secrets. Now that you have secrets; that you have no secrets." And boy he can really thrash up some there for a little while and all of a sudden the machine he has been fooling himself with starts to fold up on him. And the second this machine starts to fold up, he gets in very bad order. And he starts to feel embarrassed and he'll start to squirm. He didn't have any sex guilt peccadilloes when he was a small boy at all.

All right. There is the handiest "Scientometry" I know, because that is "Scientometry" if you don't mind my coining the word. I mean that word jokingly, by the way. But that is, in Scientology, case diagnosis for exteriorization.

Now, psychotherapy in the past has followed this through slavishly. And you, whether you like it or not, have inherited from the field of psychotherapy, whether you ever studied psychotherapy formally or not, you inherit this from the society and the stories. During the last twenty, twenty-five years, writing has more or less gone down into apathy and Freudian psychoanalysis is the keynote used by authors for characterization of characters; the libido theory is carrying through. Well, it makes good plotting because people are interested in it - sensation.

You're not interested in aberration. You're not interested in quirks. You're not interested in words. You're not interested in whether he can get mock-ups. You're not interested in any God's number of things on the thing.

But as far as psychotherapy is concerned, in the past it dealt with subjective material. Once in a while somebody dashed up and got something like psychodrama going. That's all right; it's all right; it was at least an effort. But then, by God, he had to work out the reason why with psychodrama. See, psychodrama would've worked if they'd just omitted the reason why.

Now you know what I'm talking about when I'm talking about A, B, C, D, E, F, G and tell you that it's not analogous to Steps I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII. Actually, these steps are Arabic numeral - you know, we've got Roman numeral for the steps - and the actual index, where you slip over into the technique, is inverted 1, inverted 2, inverted 3, inverted 4, inverted 5, inverted 6, inverted 7, inverted 8.

People don't talk now, very well, in this society really because they're afraid their words will betray them; they have been taught by their literature, by movies, by examples on every hand, that their words may betray them.

We've got no technique for 8 because there's no communication with 8. They're dead. Except what communication in life you yourself are willing to install in the person by manual contact or by artificial communication factors. Now, I've worked on these and when I say there isn't any technique in SOP 8 for 8, I am stretching the point too far. There is a mechanical technique at level 8 and we'll cover that in this course. But it's none of our damned business right here. Okay?

Psychology and Freud's associative word plays have reduced this - general semantics: done the same thing - that if you utter a word it means that you're masking another word. You know? If you use a certain concatenation of words, you will find out that this concatenation of words may betray the fact that when you were a little boy or a little girl - well, really.

We then slide over from the step which we exteriorized them on and watch whether or not their communication line goes up or down and slide into that letter step as I told you before. But that letter step is a dynamic number - Arabic. A is 1, B is 2, and so on, and a complete process.

Well, we ran this on John yesterday; I was just saying, "A word will betray you." And he just suddenly decided, "Well, no. It won't betray me." Of course, that's the easiest thing in the world to decide because it's the blunt truth.

Any time you'd get stalled down you have several processes. Please hear me. You have several processes.

But the society at large gets people worried about this. The first thing wrong with your preclear: He's afraid his words, appearance and action will betray him; he's afraid of this.

The best of these processes is next-to-the-last list of Self Analysis in Scientology and Self Analysis in Scientology. You've always got that technique. It isn't that we just wearily give up and so we use this technique. It actually is a technique that'll feed the bank of a neurotic or psychotic up to a point where he can actually be processed. Up to that point, he's got communication lines which are so tightly taut that he can't get them stretched enough to blow a lock.

Fear of fear is your primary setup. A man is afraid of being afraid. He is not afraid. Get the difference. A man is never afraid. Nobody is ever afraid from one corner of the universe to the other. A man is afraid of being afraid.

If I knew a good, fast, handy way of pumping these fellows full of better energy I would tell it to you. Self Analysis is the easiest. You always got that at any level of case. You can always say Self Analysis in Scientology. Any group - you can count on the fact that the people in the group are going to get good results rather uniformly.

The only thing wrong with thinking is that it is about thinking.

You may even get some miracle results but the chances of you getting miracle results are slighter than in Six Steps to Better Beingness. But your chances of getting uniform results throughout the group are much greater by the use of the lists of Self Analysis.

You actually, back on the track, have, with malice aforethought, designed thinking machines. And your preclears have actually built thinking machines to which they are now the effect. They've created the thinking machine and they are now the effect of the thing they created. And that is the second law of magic: Don't get hoist by your own petard; do not become the effect of your own cause.

Now, you can improve those to be past, present and future tense and you've got a terrific package right there.

Now, as a result, your preclear, subjectively, is floundering around in the midst of a thinking machine.

Well now, on diagnosis we've got Create and Destroy on all those dynamics. Maybe for the first time you make it completely usable to you. You don't have to depend upon the flick of an E-Meter but it's very handy to have as you go down these dynamics. Just find out where the fellow goes into communication, that's all. Solve the problem at that level and you will bring him enough closer to being interior to be exteriorized.

How do you build a thinking machine? You take a little space and you take some shells of energy, and you go crush! And when you get it real compact, you've got a thinking machine. And when you put a little energy in one side of it, it'll wander through and it'll hit this and it'll hit that and it'll come out. Now, these are very complex. The whole universe will do this.

You have to bring them in to get them out and that's the motto. And that ranks with "Thinking is condensed feeling," or "Feeling is condensed looking," and two or three others I have given you. You have to get them in to get them out.

When you take a picture of the universe around you and get a facsimile, you are actually complementing part of this thinking process because all the objects you see are designed from some effort to distort truth so as to get a form.

When you find yourself getting sort of groggy about a case and you don't quite know what to do with a case; when your tendency is to reach over with a beam and yank them out of their heads, blow up their ridges, throw one through each ear; bring them down in a wonderful crash to produce an effect of somehow or other; just remember that you've got to get them in to get them out. And if you can get them out, why, gee, they go up Tone Scale - poom!

There is such a thing as beauty; there is. But where facsimiles are taken of the environment so as to prevent something in the future, you get each facsimile based upon a falsity of reason. And the answer to the facsimile is the facsimile; it's not the words in the facsimile. It's not the perceptions or the colors; it's just the facsimile, that's all.

Well, how do you get them out? Well, you get them in first. Well, how do you get them in? Just look at the case and do a diagnosis on 1 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Where is he in communication?

You take a picture of an aberrated environment, you've got a picture that is an aberrated picture - naturally - you couldn't do otherwise. So when you take a bunch of these aberrated pictures and start piling them up on top of the thinking machine, why, for heaven's sakes, everything starts going yap-yap and yow-yow and you get people's - people's heads full of talking voices and you get - oh, you get the most marvelous - well I think that a thetan standing outside of one of these things early on the track must have been utterly fascinated!

People here are trained now. Two or three are looking at me hauntedly and thinking, "I wonder - I wonder if there's an inverted 10."

You know, people who buy gramophones - they take these gramophones and they turn them on and the cylinders go round and round, and the machine says wack! wack! rham-gah-rum-wobble-wobble - it would be indistinguishable against modern music - one of these old-time cylindrical gramo-. Once upon a time people were utterly delighted with them. And so a thetan has been tremendously delighted in the past with a thinking machine. He's put one in his hip pocket and he's put one that will furnish him - each one of them has got one little trigger in it.

But you'll find out that horizontally, as you go across the boards with the upper cone and the lower cone on each numeral you'll find out that this is a much fairer rating. Actually, they're just a little bit inverted down on all the dynamics.

The factor of surprise - a fellow is always trying to surprise himself with what he'll find out. But one of the best ways to do this... You know, you don't have any future unless it surprises you. If you can predict your future, you're on what I was talking about yesterday; you're on a total predict and that's no fun at all.

Now, why do we use inverted and up cones? Why, huh? Because the fellow is introverted on that dynamic. You can go along and find out where a person is introverted exactly and exteriorize him from there.

It's when the fellow falls off of this level of total predict and goes down toward a no-predict that he starts getting into trouble. He goes too far toward no-predict, now he's into plus randomity.

You want to know why your thetan doesn't have magnificent perceptics the moment he steps out of the body and why he's - very often sees a facsimile or sees a ridge instead of looking at the room? It's simply a problem of inverted and straight-up cones. That's all. It's just a problem of it. He is not doing well on 6 and he's on an inverted 6.

Okay.

Now, don't expect that it's this mechanically mathematical. It is not. But it's not a very complex problem either And this mechanical or mathematical schema - schema - shift into German ...

What are you trying to take apart with subjective stuff? I've been talking a lot here about that. Remember, we've been talking about subjective processing; you're processing a thinking machine.

& on it; I wish I could speak German and go over to Germany and raise hell with the Russians. Anyway, that's a good randomity. Boy, it's sure going to waste. I'm wasting randomity these days like mad. Anyway, when he drops here; there was a traffic cop down on the corner a few minutes ago and I didn't bop him. Boy, do I waste randomity.

Now, if you could just envision it as a box which has been pushed together so as to make it very compressed, so it won't have very much space, so there will be strange pressure areas and so on, and so it itself; when restimulated with a little energy, will then distort the energy; you realize that that is a thinking machine. And if you want to test out whether or not that's a thinking machine, you'll find out that you will understand about everything there is to know about subjective processing.

Just look at that; recognize we're having a little rough time with this case. This case looks all right. This case seems to get good mock-ups. This case seems to do this. It seems to do that. Don't go adrift, please. If you don't do this and you can't find out, you've got Self Analysis. You've got Six Steps to Better Beingness. They don't apply to psycho cases; they're too strong for a psycho case.

What the hell is the idea of standing in the middle of the machine thinking? All right, what's the idea of going on running a machine? The only trouble with a preclear is he has run these machines until he's slavishly dependent upon the machine and he thinks he's in the center of the machine.

So you've got these last resorts. You've just got, well, "Sit and hold the two back corners of the room and don't think." That's sometimes too much for a VI or a VII, but you could risk it, very easily. And you've got this straight up and introverted dynamic. Test for that. Talk to the preclear and listen to what he says.

He isn't in the center of the machine. Everybody told him to be thoughtful, that he must think, he must think twice before speaking once. He's been told that he must figure everything out; he has no choice but to figure everything out and so he remains in the center of the machine.

Sometime you will get - you will get just what I mean when I say, "Get communication from the preclear. Get communication in from the preclear," because very few auditors bother to. They don't ask the preclear what's happening or they'd find out some of the damnedest things.

And with that, this morning, I am going to give you the most vicious process I know on subjective processing. I want you to run it on cases, particularly the cases that have more occlusion than brightness.

I've seen an auditor sit and process a preclear that I knew the preclear was just going round and round and round in squirrel cages, the like of which had never been drawn or designed by Walt Disney. And the auditor was confidently proceeding and was getting noplace. The preclear failed to get a mock-up five mock-ups ago. While still obeying the auditor with the new mock-ups, he doesn't know where that other mock-up is.

I hope, by the way, that some of you made the test of the emanation of the rays and stopping them. Did you make that test yesterday?

Now, do you mind if I mention something right here? Okay. I'm going to talk about - you said there was a third person, remember? Do you mind if I mention that?

Male voice: Yes.

Male voice: No.

Did you find it amusing?

And you - it won't influence your case if I tell you what it is, but I want to tell them what it is.

Male voice: Yeah. Amusing.

Any time you get two mock-ups and a third one shows up, for Christ's sakes go back and read 16-G if you want the answer to this. The guy's certain there's a person standing out in front of him. He's been certain all along. He's been certain for years. So when you give him a chance to put two mock-ups, he knows there's another person out there. The person's been there all this time.

You didn't like it?

And what do you run on this to get rid of that mock-up? Boy, you - if your case is not in an imbalance at all, what do you run?

Male voice: I ran it on somebody else.

Male voice: That was three of me.

Yeah. And did they find it amusing?

Okay. Three of you. That's worse.

Male voice: Yeah.

He's got somebody standing out in front of him - that sure is. What is this? There's somebody standing in front of him. Isn't there?

You just want to get some guy aware of the fact that that's what he's doing. He's sending out mock-ups all the time, he thinks, because the MEST universe makes up mock-ups all the time by reflecting, that's all.

Well, you have him take a look at it and get awful interested in this sudden automatic mock-up that showed up. Get real interested because the case is parked with an extra body. And he's certain that the body's there, only the body isn't there.

All right, let's take this subjective process. It's called Perimeter Processing and its keynote is: You can't take a machine apart by sitting in the middle of it.

So you just run, "Certain that another one of me is present. Certain there's no other person present. Certain there's a person present. Certain there's no other person present," just like that out there in a bracket. If he's in good shape you can just get rid of it as a concept. Just pam! pam! pam! All of a sudden he'll say, "My God! My God! My God! My mother's been standing in front of me arguing now for about twenty years." Poof! Phooey! Pam! Mock up a half a dozen more mothers and blow them up. You can do anything you want to with it now, but after just running the concept and getting him to recognize the other.

Do you notice that a man trapped in a cave has to be rescued by picks and shovels from the outside? I give you that as the very, very observable: Fellow trapped in a cave has to be dug out. And this process digs the preclear out.

You talk about extroversion and introversion, where would be the preclear who was seeing an extra one of himself suddenly, automatically?

Let's say the preclear is in a cave, or in a cage, which is the center of the thinking machine. Now, the thinking machine is a sort of a mountain and this shows the preclear how he can take down the mountain and walk out of the machine. He really isn't in the machine but he's so convinced!

Where?

All right. Yesterday, we talked about the inverted dynamics. Let's look at these inverted dynamics and see them for what they are: It's the extension in terms of distance into the environment. That is the dynamics; the dynamics are extension in terms of distance into the environment.

Male voice: Introverted on 1.

Eight is furthest away. Now, let's take a series of concentric shells. And these concentric shells go from the outside shell to the inside shell and you can consider that there are eight shells. And the biggest shell outside (this is just for description only) would be called the eighth dynamic. And the next shell inside that would be the seventh dynamic. And the next shell inside that would be the sixth, fifth, fourth, third, two, one. We'll just consider that.

That's right. He isn't in him. He's probably looking at his body! We'd say, "See? Mock-up - another mock-up."

A person goes as far into the environment as he is well-off on the dynamics. It is a problem of distance; it is not a problem of subjective reason. A fellow doesn't inhabit the rest of the universe because he's worried about God. He can't inhabit parts of the universe because God occupies all space.

All sorts of possibilities show up from this, but an auditor could - has a technique instantly that he can apply there. All of a sudden there's an automaticity of another person. This simply means he's got a conviction there is somebody else in front of him there.

Now, we get down to seven: Spirits occupy some space.

All right. We just run the conviction "There is somebody there," and the conviction "There isn't somebody there," and we unlock it See how we unlock it? How easy; how easy. How simple.

Now, we get down to six: Well, there's anchor points out there that don't belong to us. See, they're somebody else's anchor points that's put up in some fashion that's very strange and peculiar.

Don't run it very long. Don't run a limited technique like that very long because you get into hot water, of course. You start running it and you're running - thought-thought- thought-thought-thought-thought-thought-thought-thought.

And then you get down to the fifth dynamic and you've got the computation, "Well, actually all these bodies all over the universe are just animals," and so on and they're something else, something else.

All right. On this afternoon I want you to continue with your assignments but I want you to give some attention to this. I want you to satisfy yourself completely as to this: the objective reality on trying to stop the waves as they remove themselves from you so as to disclose you to somebody else.

Now, let's get down to the fourth and you say, "Well, man is a certain kind of an animal on this planet, and so on, and he's sort of spiritual and he's this way and he's that..." Lots of reason in it.

I want each of you under auditing, and so forth, to get an experience on that until you actually see it. It's all right to sit and watch somebody else do it and you laugh like hell, too, and everything is fine. But until you do it yourself you don't quite see what's happening here because it's funny because he finds it's funny. Well, that's different than a line charge.

Now we get down to the third: "I belong to a group who is part of man, but I can't take part in the activities of man; I can only take part in the activities of the group."

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Second dynamic: "I have to go into the future. I can't stay here in the present."

And this morning I gave you something to do on what? Gave you, the whole class, something to do - something to find out specially.

And the first dynamic - we're talking about inversions, you see - it's -he's all the way in.

Male voice: Four parts.

Now, that was going down the cone from the top. See? "God occupies an awful lot of the universe, so I can't occupy it." He loses his eighth, then he loses his seventh, then he loses his sixth, fifth, fourth, three, two, one. Now we start the opposite direction.

Hm?

"Well, I have to go up into the future with sex. I'm being forced to, but inhibited from, going into this sensation called sex and I really can't have it."

Male voice: "Who did it?" "Reason for punishment."

And then we drop into the third dynamic.

Female voice: "Desire - desire for punishment."

And what are we getting here? We're getting the fellow being forced to be bigger than he is. Now he has a form and this form is now being blown up and expanded like somebody shoved an air hose down his throat. And now he's finally forced - he's forced to be number one, then he's inhibited from being number one, now he's forced - as we go down the inverted cones - forced to be two. He has just got to have sex, see, rrrh-rrrh!

Yeah. Go on.

And then all of a sudden somebody comes along and says, "Sex is evil."

Male voice: "Who's responsible?"

"It is?"

Yes.

"Yes. It is so evil that you dare not engage upon it. People who engage on sex very often go to hell if not always. And in hell you burn. We've already shown you what fire is and that's really sex."

Female voice: The right to be nothing.

It doesn't sound logical. Well, who said everything - anything was. So he's inhibited from being the second dynamic.

Okay. And what sudden stuff turned up on this? What convictions? Did anybody get any "bing" out of this?

Now we've got the second dynamic and we've got the inhibition of the second dynamic. And now we've got an enforcement on the third dynamic: "Well, if I can't have sex, I'll have to live as a group. Think I'll join the Communist Party or get a job at Boeing's." Same deal.

Female voice: Very exteriorizing.

Now he's inhibited as a group. "You can't be a part of this group because the group won't survive and you won't survive and nobody likes you in the group, and so forth."

Anybody get any bing on "the right to be nothing"?

Well, the guy says, "I'll be - I'll be part of man." And then he realizes man can't last either; wars and things like that disabuse him and inhibits him from being man.

Female voice: I don't think so.

So he says, "Well, there's always animals; they're always your friend. Dogs are loyal." You'll have a lot of preclears come in and tell you very fixedly, "Well, people are no good, but dogs - dogs are loyal. Dogs - dogs know how you feel. Cats are sympathetic, too, sometimes. Except I do envy their independence. Ha-ha!" Now, we've got number - number - number five. And all of a sudden one day the dog bites him or shoots him or something and we get down to number six.

Gee-whiz. Did you run it out?

And the fellow says, "Well, there's always objects. Money is an object. And there's - I can have an object. I - here's this stamp. Did I ever show you my stamp collection?" he says. "Did I ever show you my coin collection?" Well, this starts to get inhibited and he starts to collect the damnedest things. He'll collect - as this thing dwindles out - he will collect the most foul and loathsome things as a tremendous idea. Well, he's collecting things; he s in objects.

Male voice: Didn't run it.

Now he goes down into seven and he has decided he has lived a life of evil and he should pay for all this because Christ's spirit is calling to him. And finally he gets inhibited from being Christ; somebody walks up to him someday and points out the fact that he hasn't healed anybody by looking at them for some time. And having pointed this out is a great shock to him and he realizes this is true and so he can't be Christ because at that level of the Tone Scale all somebody has to say is "You're not succeeding," and he doesn't. Other people's postulates are stronger than one's own postulates any day of the week.

Male voice: The auditor didn't plan it for the session.

Then he gets down into God and he's in a spinbin someplace in a sanitarium; that's that.

Oh, you forgot about it.

They're inverted dynamics. Well, what is this? This is a problem of really having the whole condemned environment from one corner to the other and having your postulates work in it and then that inverts and goes down to nothing and then is pushed out again to where it's all uninhabitable, but you have to be there anyway.

Male voice: I did, yeah.

And you'll find out that your people who are on the lower inversions have to be spread all over the place but they can't be. And they are at some dynamic or other.

Ahhh!

Perimeter Processing simply takes the outside sphere and runs four consecutive things on it by the preclear who is in the center.

Male voice: That was an oversight.

Let's consider this is the preclear in the middle of the sphere and you have him run at a distance as far as he can think. This is awfully easy because he can do this.

Female voice: Yeah. it is..

"Get as far as you can think, now, in every direction, the thought that explosions are sparking out there; now that there's nothing out there; now that there are black explosions out there; now that there's ...." You intervene nothing there - nothing out there as far as he can think in 360 degrees. And then that you have vacuums out there as far as he can think in all directions. You operate the outside of the shells from the inside. It's as far as he can think in all directions; and that's 360-degree spheres. Now, you make sure, patiently and carefully, that he covers a 360-degree sphere with each one of these.

Ahhh!

I'll give them to you again. It's very simple, they're the most elementary things we have: (1) Explosions. Make sure that he gets a ring of explosions - just the idea that he's getting explosions - as far out as he could possibly get in 360 degrees from where he is. Preferably as many at a time as possible. You don't run this very long - thirty seconds.

Female voice: ... a nagging feeling there was one of those missing.

Now you get nothing out there. Just get the idea that there's nothing out there as far as he can think. There's a spot of nothing; not that there is nothing between where he is and it, see, but he thinks that there's a spot of nothing way out there. See?

I'm going to get my Argentinian whip. And if that doesn't work I'll get one of those bola things, you know? I mean, they've got a ball on each end of it and you throw it and it wraps around the neck.

Male voice: A spot in that shell?

Look, for heaven's sakes run this because this will break a case. It's the right to be nothing - as well as "reasons have to exist so I can punish somebody," - will bust a case particularly, but that "right to be nothing," that's real hot. Just run it as a concept in a bracket, just as an idea, so you see what happens here. This is real good. Will you do that?

Well, he's - at the outside of the rim of the furthest shell there's a spot of nothing; there's a spot there and a spot there and a spot there. Not that it's nothing all the way around - he can't embrace this. See? It's just like you've got these little, tiny explosions on the outside of the big shell; well, now you get spots of nothing all over there.

Audience: We'll do that.

Now you get black explosions all over the most exterior shell and then get nothing, same way, 360 degrees.

Don't forget about things like that because we've got to get some subjective/ objective reality on some of these manifestations. We see them in a preclear. We say, "Gee-whiz. Gee-whiz." Like today, I run into "other people's problems."

And then you get nothing 360 degrees and then follow that up with vacuums. You got the idea; there are little, tiny vacuums - here-here-here-here - all the way around.

Now, I'm going to give you another one as long as you were very bad children and need to be punished. Ha-ha! I'm going to give you another one. Run the concept "other people's problems."

And you just keep that up. Do you talk about dynamics? Do you talk about God? No, no! You don't talk about any dynamics or any God or anything else; you encompass the whole condemned works. Because you're just working with areas and distances. And if your preclear is someplace else but inside his body, he'll sure find it out.

Male voice: Just the concept in brackets?

This is not a short process; it is a brutal process. And it should be run. You can bring a person out of it rather easily but he will get somatics. You make him neglect the center of the sphere.

Just - that's all, in brackets. Just - not in a positive or negative or anything. Just run the concept "other people's problems."

Don't let him run the center of the sphere; he has always been chewing on this! And it's like the miner trying to dig himself out of a cave-in: The second he pulls down a little block of stone the rest of the cave starts falling in on him. And he pulls out another little piece of sand and the rest of it falls in on him again. He can't chew himself out of the middle of it, but he can chew himself out from the outside in. And the joke is, is he's not in there, you see. So if he's not in there, it's very easy for him. And he will eventually go around and start chewing on this shell from the outside. Soon as he does that he says to hell with it.

Male voice: Interesting.

The end product of this is simply to rid the guy of the idea that he's in the middle of a whole bunch of pressure ridges or vacuums. Get him out of the center of the thinking machine, that's all. That's all you have to do with him; just get him out of the middle of the thinking machine.

You got it.

And this is called Perimeter Processing - explosions, nothing, black explosions, nothing, vacuums. And if you want to go all the way around, you'd run nothing again and explosions and nothing and black explosions and nothing and vacuums and nothing and explosions and nothing.

I want you to see that, because there are several of these concepts as they come along - all of a sudden one of them is sitting on top of the case, you know? There are just - there are just a handful of them; there are not very many of them.

Now, how long do you run each one of them? Thirty seconds, fifteen seconds. Just keep him rolling till he's got that 360-degree arc. Now, you make sure that he isn't missing some arc because they'll miss in back of them. They're usually up against the thinking machine. They're this way on it; they're kind of outside of it.

All right. And you run any of the subzero scale and you've got yourself a picnic on your hands. But some preclear will be sitting right there all ready to be tripped. Pow!

And you'll notice that there's some wicked somatics turn up with this process and that this process is intensely damaging. Now, I want you to run it therefore. I want you - to show you what these subjective processes do to a pc but I also want to show you the anatomy of a thinking machine. Nobody will spin on this, but if anybody gets in trouble in this process, why - if an auditor gets in trouble on this process or something weird or strange or terrible starts to happen, just grab a couple of back corners of the room, let the guy hold on. Very satisfying sort of a thing. If he gets too wobbly then give him a little Self Analysis. If he gets too bad off get ahold of me.

Now, the other proposition is here, that somewhere on the case there is a mock-up - this is an interesting little search - there's a mock-up of a person of the current lifetime which, when blown up, releases and frees the case. You can always count on this. There is a person on the case which, when mocked up and blown up, has a tendency to really release the case - real, real surge.

Now, this is no process to run on a psycho. But that's all right. As far as we are concerned anybody in this class can run this process. As far as that's concerned, anybody who has been exteriorized can run this process. As far as that's concerned, anybody who's still pinned inside can run this process.

And if you want that elusive button the psychoanalyst is always trying to search for... You know, he's saying, "You push on the button - you push the light switch and the lights turn on," you know? In other words, the guy comes up to 0.0. All you have to do is just find - there's somebody on this case which, when blown up a few times, releases the case.

Male voice: Do you tell them to be on the outside at the beginning?

There's always somebody and you have to usually blow this person up on a gradient scale.

Oh, no. No ...

You get a - you get a place where they have been many years ago, and they're now gone from, you blow it up. And then you get a footprint which they left behind in the sand and you blow that up. And then you blow up a shoelace and then you blow up a shoe and then you blow up a finger and then you blow up their hair and then you finally blow them up. And then you get it so it's real good and real fast, and you can blow them up in a heck of a hurry and all of a sudden the preclear feels tremendously relieved!

Male voice: You don't say that?

Just such an automaticity

.. No, let's not get original; that might help them. You're supposed to run Perimeter Processing from the inside.

& as Bert ran into there

Now, as far as your boy who's exteriorized is concerned, the guy who gets out of the body easily, you run this process slightly different. You do the same process but you just get him to hell and gone away from the body while he runs it. And get him to run it on the body. We don't care where he is; get him to run it on the body, see. You got a thinking machine sitting in front of you in the body.

- of the third person showing up will show up on any case you've got if you look for it. Anyone has got some slight idea that somebody in this current lifetime - I don't care how Clear this guy is or how well he's feeling or how well his mock-ups are or anything else, he can always get a resurgence on blowing up one person. Now, it isn't any contest of yours to find this person. But if you're ever confronted with the necessity of getting a pretty close release - pretty fast release on a case - you only got about five minutes, you know, and you're going to fix this case up - you just take a look at him and you decide they're a boy trying to be a girl or something of the sort, and you just kind of drift through very fast on various personal relationships. You just decide that there's a change there somehow.

And then, when he's exteriorized, get him to run it around himself as a thetan. Get him to get a quick once-over to the body on this; then get him exteriorized and run it as a thetan. Okay? You run the same process. If he can be exteriorized, tell him to get out, run it around himself

And you - it isn't - you're not blowing up the basic reason, understand? You're just blowing up a person. It'll be Papa. You can always do something with a case by blowing up Mama. Always! You always blow up Mama with good benefit to the case, if you can get her blown up. You can always get her blown up if you blow up by gradient scale. Blow up somebody who- blow up a door post that once saw Mama. Gradient scale.

Now, I didn't tell you that this is a helpful process, I merely told you that this is a painful process. Well, I told you also that it ought to be run, not just as a demonstration on you; you're going to have to run it someday, anyway. Because there are sleepers all over a case.

See, there is a release on the destruction of a personality the preclear is certain is present. He's unable to destroy somebody in the case.

You get somebody and boy they're just coming up the line terrifically, and you go in and you all of a sudden take a look at this case, and you say, "What the hell is the matter with the auditor?" because, my God, this case has a glob of energy sitting about one inch from the nose. Do you have to see the glob of energy to know that it's one inch from the nose? No, you don't. Just look at the condition of the nose. And you say this case is horribly messed up with some kind of a glob of energy.

& Anybody who were processing Nibs it'd probably be you'd find out he couldn't blow me up. He could get well immediately, I mean he'd stop being this sick. So that's why he's so well.

Well, if you've done the thinking machine (which should possibly be the name of it; Perimeter Processing is the best name), if you've done the thinking machine, why, you would have caught this on the way in. See?

Oh, you've been blowing me up, huh?

Now, do you at any time tell him how far to put the explosion from him? Not beyond this: "Just as far away from you as you can think; think a spot as far away from you as you can think the spot."

Okay, that's the end of class.

He does this weird one: sometimes he starts thinking of these spots at some distance from him; when he finishes up with the thinking machine, he has been operating the whole time within a sphere that has no more than a cubic inch in it; and he has been going out there miles!

I'll take care of you later...

The zone of occlusion is what you're trying to run here, too. You can find out that a person has a zone of occlusion. He'll find it out for himself - arbitrary zone - goes out anywheres up to fifteen, twenty feet - sometimes no longer than three or four feet; sometimes no longer than a couple of inches - there's a zone of occlusion. He can always put a mock-up on the other side of a zone of occlusion and get it beautiful. This is real silly, by the way. He keeps putting them inside the zone of occlusion, though.

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Thinking machines are distorting machines. The only way to get rid of them is to run the various kinds of energy performances - space performances -there are. Which is nothing, vacuums, black explosions and white explosions. So let's find out how to chew on them.

There any questions about this?

Male voice: Yeah. When you have an exterior run this around the body, what do you have him do? Have him take a look at the body and have him. put out as far as the body can think, or what?

When you have them exteriorized? Have them think around the spot where they find themselves when they're exteriorized.

Male voice: Well, you mentioned something before that about having them run it on the body

Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Run the body as a sphere.

Male voice: Oh.

Just run the body as a sphere and put it all around the outside of the body and let it smooth on in toward the body, and so forth. They've got a thinking machine - if they've got any thinking machines around they're parked in the body.

Okay.

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